Hidden Treasures - Missteps? - Classic Rock Bottom2024-03-28T14:27:39Zhttp://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/forum/topics/hidden-treasures-missteps?feed=yes&xn_auth=noCOOL!tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2016-08-19:6060463:Comment:1389332016-08-19T19:28:20.919ZJonhttp://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/JonCStephenson
<p>COOL!</p>
<p>COOL!</p> thats what I did! My wife is…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2016-08-19:6060463:Comment:1387522016-08-19T19:12:53.538ZScotthttp://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/Scott
<p>thats what I did! My wife is standing behind me right now saying, "ya I saw him (meaning me) bow and type that!" so its true....</p>
<p>thats what I did! My wife is standing behind me right now saying, "ya I saw him (meaning me) bow and type that!" so its true....</p> I didn't FEEL that. It seems…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2016-08-19:6060463:Comment:1386472016-08-19T15:27:48.398ZJonhttp://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/JonCStephenson
<p>I didn't FEEL that. It seems a bit forced. </p>
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<p>Maybe you should bow down to me and THEN type that?</p>
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<p>No.......</p>
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<p>Bow down to me WHILE you're typing that.</p>
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<p>Yeah, that's the ticket!</p>
<p>I didn't FEEL that. It seems a bit forced. </p>
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<p>Maybe you should bow down to me and THEN type that?</p>
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<p>No.......</p>
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<p>Bow down to me WHILE you're typing that.</p>
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<p>Yeah, that's the ticket!</p> My sincerest of apologies...…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2016-08-19:6060463:Comment:1386452016-08-19T13:54:35.859ZScotthttp://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/Scott
<p>My sincerest of apologies... I got in a rush as work has been nuts lately... I do have about 20-25 playlists that I feed songs into as I come across them, and this one just seemed to have a good feel. I owe credit to you on two fronts..</p>
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<p>1 - Your Toto post helped and</p>
<p>2 - Your follow up to big albums series still holds our interest...</p>
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<p>Thanks Jon!!</p>
<p>My sincerest of apologies... I got in a rush as work has been nuts lately... I do have about 20-25 playlists that I feed songs into as I come across them, and this one just seemed to have a good feel. I owe credit to you on two fronts..</p>
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<p>1 - Your Toto post helped and</p>
<p>2 - Your follow up to big albums series still holds our interest...</p>
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<p>Thanks Jon!!</p> I believe that "Heartbeat Cit…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2016-08-19:6060463:Comment:1389282016-08-19T13:29:46.369ZJonhttp://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/JonCStephenson
<p>I believe that "Heartbeat City" is where The Cars lost it. Now THAT'S a sellout of an album. Kinda ranks up there with Dire Straits "Brothers In Arms" where they decided to bow down to the unwashed masses and it paid off, but not to me. No, sir. NOT TO ME. </p>
<p>"Panorama" is a difficult album to get into after their first two. But it's correct in that it takes a few listens for it to grow on you like wanted mold. I don't consider "Gimmie Some Slack" a "fierce" rocker. Rocker, yes. Fierce,…</p>
<p>I believe that "Heartbeat City" is where The Cars lost it. Now THAT'S a sellout of an album. Kinda ranks up there with Dire Straits "Brothers In Arms" where they decided to bow down to the unwashed masses and it paid off, but not to me. No, sir. NOT TO ME. </p>
<p>"Panorama" is a difficult album to get into after their first two. But it's correct in that it takes a few listens for it to grow on you like wanted mold. I don't consider "Gimmie Some Slack" a "fierce" rocker. Rocker, yes. Fierce, no. At least they didn't call it a raging rocker. </p>
<p>Just so everyone knows and is completely clear on this, Kiss'ssssss missteps are on every album before and after "The Elder". Any other discussion on this is unwarranted and unwanted. Live "The Elder". Be "The Elder". Anything else is just unwanted mold.</p>
<p>"Turn Back" isn't bad, it's miles ahead of "Fahrenheit" which still amazes me with it's downright suckiness. I was so exciterd to get the remastered CD of that album and wish I never spent the money. Eh, maybe I'll revisit it one of these days and like it.</p>
<p>"Permanent Vacation" from Aerosmith is a misstep, but that one sold a boatload as well. After "Done With Mirrors", it was such a sellout step they took.</p>
<p>"Good Trouble" is better than the previous album. Why? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CONTAIN A STUPID SONG ABOUT A STUPID LETTER.</p>
<p>GREAT GOOGLY-MOOGLY. THAT SONG IS ONE OF THE WORST SONGS EVER WRITTEN!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Sigh. Glad you came up with this idea to piggyback off of my ongoing series. Of course I won't get any credit.</p>
<p>I just barfed up a hairball on the cat thinking about that song about that letter.</p>
<p>Cat ran away. It's not too happy.</p>
<p>Neither am I.</p>
<p></p> you continue to surprise me,…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2016-08-17:6060463:Comment:1386342016-08-17T21:28:06.784ZScotthttp://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/Scott
<p>you continue to surprise me, what I thought was a Niels-will-hate_everything_about-this-post, turned into a 50/50 thing.</p>
<p>you continue to surprise me, what I thought was a Niels-will-hate_everything_about-this-post, turned into a 50/50 thing.</p> I go back and forth on which…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2016-08-17:6060463:Comment:1389242016-08-17T21:26:48.992ZScotthttp://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/Scott
<p>I go back and forth on which solo album I like best, Pauls or Aces... The other two? Never owned either one of them and still don't want them since hearing them. HTH is a top 5 KISS album for me as well...</p>
<p>I go back and forth on which solo album I like best, Pauls or Aces... The other two? Never owned either one of them and still don't want them since hearing them. HTH is a top 5 KISS album for me as well...</p> I agree: Unmasked was the fir…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2016-08-17:6060463:Comment:1387432016-08-17T09:10:47.606ZNiels (Mod)http://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/Niels
<p>I agree: Unmasked was the first big mistake, KISS made. The first of countless mistakes. The solo-albums was a brilliant move, even though Criss's sucks big time. Simmons's is okay. But what a day it was, when those album was released!!! That was a dream coming true, for a 13 year old mega-KISS fan like me!! And again: I agree about Dynasty. The last really good KISS-album, and the last time they could follow up a new album up with spectacular outfits and a new stageshow. I know those…</p>
<p>I agree: Unmasked was the first big mistake, KISS made. The first of countless mistakes. The solo-albums was a brilliant move, even though Criss's sucks big time. Simmons's is okay. But what a day it was, when those album was released!!! That was a dream coming true, for a 13 year old mega-KISS fan like me!! And again: I agree about Dynasty. The last really good KISS-album, and the last time they could follow up a new album up with spectacular outfits and a new stageshow. I know those outfits get critizised a lot, but I love that look. Too me, it is the look of 1979, which was a great year. But Hotter Than Hell is THE best KISS-album. The Elder is total and utter CRAP!!! Whatever they made after Dynasty, was more or less crap. Ace is the only one left, that has some kind of dignity left.....go figure!!</p> TOTO - I've heard this album…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2016-08-17:6060463:Comment:1385312016-08-17T08:51:39.092ZNiels (Mod)http://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/Niels
<p>TOTO - I've heard this album a few times, but I've never bought it myself. I don't think, i've heard it since....1990 or something like that. The first song sounds very familiar, though. Lukather has a nice voice, even though he rarely sings the very best songs on the albums, except the newest one. Nothing special about this track, until the guitar-solo, which is nice. Not bad, but not great. I never was a fan of Kimball's voice. I guess, it's because, I became a big fan (and still is) of…</p>
<p>TOTO - I've heard this album a few times, but I've never bought it myself. I don't think, i've heard it since....1990 or something like that. The first song sounds very familiar, though. Lukather has a nice voice, even though he rarely sings the very best songs on the albums, except the newest one. Nothing special about this track, until the guitar-solo, which is nice. Not bad, but not great. I never was a fan of Kimball's voice. I guess, it's because, I became a big fan (and still is) of the band, that made "Isolation", and Frederiksen or whatever his name was, was much better imo. Again a song that's good, but not great. Actually I don't really remember this song. Maybe only slightly. Still, this song is better than Lukather's. Classic Toto sounding and "heavier" (not that it should make it better, just because it's heavier).</p>
<p>CARS - I never, ever was and probably won't ever be a fan of The Cars. I don't really get their music at all. It sounds soooo much like some shit from the 80's. I wish to forget. I hate his voice! I don't know, why Mutt Lange wasted his time on this band. I have never heard this album. The first song is not as bad as expected, but still the same style. As a radio-song it's not bad at all. Besides "Drive", it's probably the best Cars-song I've heard so far. The second song also has that Cars-sound, I don't like. Everything is too simple. They remind me of Talking Heads, only in a much more simple way. Your text says it : this is a throwaway, meaning I'm one of many. First song, a pleassant surprise, second is as I would had expected, meaning deep down I still haven't given up hearing The Cars, since there might be one or two other okay songs in their catalog, that won't get on my nerves.</p>
<p>A few other missteps? Hmmm....</p>
<p>Led Zeppelin's "Precence" and ITTOD comes to mind. A clasic misstep: Making their sound bigger and bigger through every album up until "precence", which they never should had made under the circumstances (just as ITTOD). PG should had been the last Zeppelin-album.</p>
<p>Just like The Who should had stopped making albums after Moon died. Each of those albums are missteps.</p>
<p>Talking about Toto, I think misstep numero uno is Fahrenheit. Urgghh....Michael Jackson-music.</p> tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2016-08-17:6060463:Comment:1389222016-08-17T01:56:41.466ZScotthttp://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/Scott
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