Hidden Treasures - Producer Showcase: Roy Thomas Baker - Classic Rock Bottom2024-03-28T18:12:34Zhttps://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/forum/topics/hidden-treasures-producer-showcase-roy-thomas-baker?commentId=6060463%3AComment%3A111449&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDevin Devind - whatevs!
Jaz…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2014-12-11:6060463:Comment:1114492014-12-11T21:33:55.324ZScotthttps://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/Scott
<p>Devin Devind - whatevs! <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></p>
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<p>Jazz is cool! I don't care what anyone else says...</p>
<p>Devin Devind - whatevs! <img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/></p>
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<p>Jazz is cool! I don't care what anyone else says...</p> That's DEVIN, not DEVIND. It…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2014-12-11:6060463:Comment:1113562014-12-11T12:53:03.559ZJonhttps://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/JonCStephenson
<p>That's DEVIN, not DEVIND. It appears that Scottipedia is as incorrect as Wikipedia.</p>
<p>When I first saw the title, the first band/album that came to mind was Queen's "Jazz". Very underrated album that gets better and better upon each listen. Don't know why the album would be called "fascist" when it included a posted of nekkid women on bicycles.</p>
<p>Even way back then, "Candy-O" sounded great. However, "Head Games" never really sounded that good on LP or CD. It has always sounded a…</p>
<p>That's DEVIN, not DEVIND. It appears that Scottipedia is as incorrect as Wikipedia.</p>
<p>When I first saw the title, the first band/album that came to mind was Queen's "Jazz". Very underrated album that gets better and better upon each listen. Don't know why the album would be called "fascist" when it included a posted of nekkid women on bicycles.</p>
<p>Even way back then, "Candy-O" sounded great. However, "Head Games" never really sounded that good on LP or CD. It has always sounded a bit muffled to me but it's one of my favorite Foreigner albums. The Perry/Journey albums sounded better which each album release, with the best sounding being "Escape", at least to my tender ears. </p>
<p>I have a couple Starcastle albums and they're very "light" sounding. Not much bass. Could be that the CD releases are a bit crappy, or maybe that's how they originally wanted to sound.</p>
<p>4/5 </p> Starcastle - I like the album…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2014-12-11:6060463:Comment:1113512014-12-11T03:00:50.234ZRJhog (Admin)https://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/JeffHogland
<p>Starcastle - I like the album cover, did Baker have anything to do with that? I'm not much of a Yes fan, but this is okay. Nice guitar. Saw the vinyl a year or two ago for a buck, should have picked that up.</p>
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<p>The Cars - Outstanding. Nuff said.</p>
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<p>Foreigner - See previous remark for The Cars. Plus, this is my favorite Foreigner album.</p>
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<p>Journey - See previous remark for The Cars and Foreigner. However, I slightly prefer Evolution. Schon shreds on…</p>
<p>Starcastle - I like the album cover, did Baker have anything to do with that? I'm not much of a Yes fan, but this is okay. Nice guitar. Saw the vinyl a year or two ago for a buck, should have picked that up.</p>
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<p>The Cars - Outstanding. Nuff said.</p>
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<p>Foreigner - See previous remark for The Cars. Plus, this is my favorite Foreigner album.</p>
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<p>Journey - See previous remark for The Cars and Foreigner. However, I slightly prefer Evolution. Schon shreds on this track.</p>
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<p>Queen - See previous remark for The Cars, Foreigner and Journey. However, This is one of my least favorite Queen albums. Maybe because it is sandwiched between my two favorite Queen albums. But May does shine, as usual, on this track.</p>
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<p>Instant update: I listened to Jazz today. I don't think it's radio friendly at all (other than Fat Bottomed Girls), but I did notice the individual performances. They are quite remarkable. Just listen to each musician on the song Dead On Time. I still wouldn't put the album in my Top 10 for Queen, but I got it much more on this listen than I ever had before</p> Niels, when I was reviewing B…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2014-12-11:6060463:Comment:1115402014-12-11T02:27:34.702ZScotthttps://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/Scott
<p>Niels, when I was reviewing Bakers production credits I totally took notice of all the Gasolin albums he worked on. My first thought was you! I've been through their group page on here and listened and tried to get it. But while this band eludes my understanding there are very entertaining and some of the music is quite cool. </p>
<p>Niels, when I was reviewing Bakers production credits I totally took notice of all the Gasolin albums he worked on. My first thought was you! I've been through their group page on here and listened and tried to get it. But while this band eludes my understanding there are very entertaining and some of the music is quite cool. </p> An insiders view! Now that w…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2014-12-11:6060463:Comment:1112892014-12-11T02:15:04.760ZScotthttps://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/Scott
<p>An insiders view! Now that was a cool story! And I recognize the Riggs tunes as soon as you mentioned them being on the Heavy Metal Soundtrack and you're right, I certainly do not remember them being heavy tunes...</p>
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<p>Great read Gordon!!</p>
<p>An insiders view! Now that was a cool story! And I recognize the Riggs tunes as soon as you mentioned them being on the Heavy Metal Soundtrack and you're right, I certainly do not remember them being heavy tunes...</p>
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<p>Great read Gordon!!</p> About the play list:
Definite…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2014-12-10:6060463:Comment:1116112014-12-10T22:09:05.859ZGordon Williamshttps://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/GordonWilliams105
<p>About the play list:</p>
<p>Definitely hear the Yes vibe in the Starcastle. Awesome art work on the cover. The track overall is not for me. The Cars track was typical Cars, and it was pretty good. A little more guitar, and less synth would work for me (as always). On a side note, Elliot Easton was an endorser of Kramer guitars back in the 80's.</p>
<p>I have the Foreigner on vinyl, but I dont really recall this song at all. Best track so far, though, and the chorus is a good one. Dont ever…</p>
<p>About the play list:</p>
<p>Definitely hear the Yes vibe in the Starcastle. Awesome art work on the cover. The track overall is not for me. The Cars track was typical Cars, and it was pretty good. A little more guitar, and less synth would work for me (as always). On a side note, Elliot Easton was an endorser of Kramer guitars back in the 80's.</p>
<p>I have the Foreigner on vinyl, but I dont really recall this song at all. Best track so far, though, and the chorus is a good one. Dont ever recall hearing this Journey, so Scott's "hidden treasure" theme is apparent in this producer post. Not posting hits is a good move, for sure. But the track is almost half over before I hear any guitar. Maybe Schon had the day off when they recorded the first part? But now the tempo and intensity pick up, and this track just improved a lot for me. Very good organ "lead", before Schon starts smoking. Very pleasant surprise on this track.</p>
<p>Never heard this Queen, either. Not much of a Queen fan as you guys may know, even though I've always said the talent level was immense. I like hearing Freddie Mercury using a somewhat lower register on some of the vocals here. Adds some balls to it. Very good guitar lead from Brian May. He gets some great tones out of that same old guitar he always plays. One of the better Queen songs I've heard, for me.</p>
<p>And now, my Roy Thomas Baker story. Some of you may remember my mentioning a great band in Atlanta in the early 80's, by the name of Riggs. The lead singer, lead guitarist, and main songwriter was all Jerry Riggs. Who would end his own band, and join the Pat Travers Band as Pat Thrall's replacement. He stayed with P.T. for at least 10 years.</p>
<p>Anyway, before Riggs ended the band, they were part of a double album, movie soundtrack, by the name of "Heavy Metal". An animated movie from the early 80's that included a lot of "big name" rock n roll. Black Sabbath, Blue Oyster Cult, Sammy Hagar, Nazareth, Cheap Trick, and Journey. Riggs was one of only two artists to be given two tracks on the double album release. So, it was a big deal, and Riggs was more than just a local band for a while there.</p>
<p>But, the two songs Riggs had on Heavy Metal, were both hard rockers....when heard live. They kicked serious ass. Enter a trip to Miami, and working with Roy Thomas Baker to record these two tracks for the movie soundtrack. Mr. Baker preceded to soften up both tracks, had the band change the chorus and title (only) of one song. The lyrics, outside the chorus, did not change. This track, called "Radar Rider", was once known and played as "Streetwalker". So a song about a "lady of the night" had it's chorus changed, but not its verse lyrics. Kind of made for a strange song, lyrically. The worst part about this whole episode was how two hard rocking, bad ass tracks were made softer, and far less appealing to me by Mr. Baker.</p>
<p>I think without a doubt, the play list here proves that Mr. Baker preferred softer rock, and lots of keyboards. This is neither right nor wrong...it just is. Wrong to me, but no one asked my opinion. So I give it now, over 30 years later.</p>
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<p></p> Gasolin'!!! We all know and l…tag:classic-rock-bottom.ning.com,2014-12-10:6060463:Comment:1114402014-12-10T08:43:13.604ZNiels (Mod)https://classic-rock-bottom.ning.com/profile/Niels
<p>Gasolin'!!! We all know and love all the great songs, Gasoli'n wrote and Baker produced, right? (around the same time he produced the best Quen-albums, meaning in the mid-seventies).</p>
<p>Kloden Drejer stille rundt</p>
<p>Rabalderstræde</p>
<p>Kvinde min</p>
<p>Sct. Emétri</p>
<p>Det var Inga & Katinka</p>
<p>and so on....</p>
<p>Producing Bohemian Rhapsody "alone" makes R.T.Baker one of my absolute alltime favorite producers (along Mutt Lange and George Martin).…</p>
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<p>Gasolin'!!! We all know and love all the great songs, Gasoli'n wrote and Baker produced, right? (around the same time he produced the best Quen-albums, meaning in the mid-seventies).</p>
<p>Kloden Drejer stille rundt</p>
<p>Rabalderstræde</p>
<p>Kvinde min</p>
<p>Sct. Emétri</p>
<p>Det var Inga & Katinka</p>
<p>and so on....</p>
<p>Producing Bohemian Rhapsody "alone" makes R.T.Baker one of my absolute alltime favorite producers (along Mutt Lange and George Martin).</p>
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