Hey, just thought I would start a discussion on Motley. I'm very, very, very late to the party on this band. First hears "Shout..." when it came out and was not impressed...not sure what turned me off to them, but never gave them another listen until "Feelgood" came out, and I did like that album...but kind of wrote them off after that.
Fast forward all these years later and I found the book, "The Dirt" at a thrift store for a buck, hardcover, in brand new shape. Bought it. Read it. Loved it.
I located all of their albums from here and there, put them on my ipod and have been listening to them in the order they were released as I work out at the gym (totally off topic, but I've lost 11 pounds in two weeks...and need to lose another 68 pounds still...crap!!!).
Anyway, have really been enjoying their music. Mick Mars is an unsung guitar hero. If it really is him playing all the guitar parts, this guy is not good...he is great. Heard the "Too Fast For Love" album for the first time, and for a debut album, it is killer. Revisted "Shout..." and have a whole new repsect for it....next came "Theatre of Pain" and that one too is a pretty great album. Tommy Lee is a very talented drummer....makes the drums sing. I am finishing up the "Girls..." album today, and will start on the "Feelgood" album before the day is over.
Just wondering what others think...the weakest link of the band to me is the vocals. Vince is good, but sometimes his voice gets a bid whiney...and although I think Nikki is a great songwriter, I haven't noticed his bass playing standing out...so today I plan on paying close attention to that aspect.
So, whadda ya all think? What's your opinion of Motley? I'm always surprised how time can change your perception of a band...and now, I'm a Motley fan...just wish they would make more new music...of course, I've not reached the Corabi version of Motley yet, nor the much badly-reviewed "Swine" album, or the newest one, "Saints Of LA"...so maybe my opinion will change again!
Motley Crue is somewhat "middle of the pack" for me. I liked 'em more in the 80's than I do now. But I wll say that I didn't buy the "Too Fast For Love" album until a few years ago, and it puts all of their other albums to shame, in my opinion. It sounds so raw, like there wasn't a producer at all, and the songs rock.
I think Shout At The Devil would be second for me, then maybe Girls.
Dave, I think you hit the mark pretty well with your description. I totally agree that Mick Mars is probably underrated. And I am in very strong agreement with your remarks regarding Vince Neil. He is not a good vocalist at all to me.
I didn't care for Saints Of LA at all. The lyrics were totally assanine and childish, and that's coming from someone who likes childish lyrics at times.
I personally like Nikki Sixx's new side band Sixx: A.M. The style is not like The Crue, but the songwriting is quite good and the vocalist is 100 times better than Neil.
I was thinking about checking out Sixx:A.M.....what is their style? Part of the problem I think with a band like the Crue is that much of their music is based on sex, drunkeness, drugs, party, etc....and as you get older, well, you outgrow those "themes" somewhat...and to try and write those same things when you're in your 50's...it just doesn't go over as well.
I don't like Mötley Crüe. I think that the most talented in that band are Sixx and Lee, but I don't think, they are GREAT talents. I HATE Vince Neil's vocals!!! And I don't agree, that Mars is a good guitar-player. I'm surprised, that he still breaths. He has been looking like a zombie for decades now. I can't see, what should be so good about "Dr. Feelgood". For me it was another one of those crap-albums from around '89, that made me buy other music than rock, fx funk and jazz-albums . Thank god for Grunge!!!!
I like the track "Wild Side", but that's about it!! I haven't read "The Dirt", I'm waiting for the movie!!!
Like Niels, I like grunge (to an extent at least), but he has to be the only living dude that would say "thank God for Grunge"...
Put me in the middle of the pack bucket as well. Although I do own their first 4 albums. I prefer Too Fast For Love and Girls heads and shoulders above anything else they've done, then Shout and Theater. I've always felt that Dr Feelgood was way overplayed and it still feels that way when I hear a track.
The best recommendation I would make for fans like me is the Greatest Hits package titled "Red White and Crue". I was given that as a gift and it does contain some cool post-Feelgood pre-Saints of LA music. For me thats more than enough Crue. Ive never given any of their new stuff any consideration.
One more thing Dave. I think it's awesome the way you went back and got the albums. I love to do that. One band I have done that with is Black Sabbath. I was never a fan growing up, never listened to 'em at all. A couple of years ago I started collecting their catalog. At this point I have all of the Ozzy and Dio albums, but most of the rest can be a little pricey.
Two bands that are on my radar to do this with is Iron Maiden and Megadeth.